What will it take ?
BowTie - Chevy
I did not start the latest discussion about Tiger's latest
indiscretion. I guess because I have made my opinion known in the past,
I don't get to express it any more.
I don't want to be shunned from the group. I guess I will if I'm not
welcome any more.
I'd really like to know what it would take to be removed from
everyone's kill-file. This has always been about my honestly held
opinions. I don't see why it is a problem to discuss it once again when
he does it once again.
Ken
FredK
The button that says "REPLY TO GROUP" is a useful thing.
We don't need more new threads on this.
Depending on our reader, you might also find it useful to
change your settings to "include message in reply" so that
there is *some* context to what you are responding to.
You can write whatever you want. You can stand on the
street corner and talk in tongues if you want. But at this
point you should know what to expect as a response.
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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ChrisTheHeretic
: I have not made any off topic posts in weeks.
There is no group. There are only individuals. So there are
probably as many answers to this as there are people who have
you plonked.
BTW, I think I'm actually going to get paid soon so I can
get that check to you.
cb
BowTie - Chevy
KP
Alan Baker
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You'll just have to learn to accept that what you don't see as a
problem, other people do. Remember: for all its distributed and virtual
nature, RSG is more like a club where people gather to talk golf than
anything else. Just like a club, the same people are here all the time,
and if you bring up the same subject with the same people often enough,
you're going to get the reputation of being a bore and then later, an
irritant.
But you could try promising to put something like "Tiger Woods swearing"
in the subject line of every post you make on the subject. Then people
who wanted to avoid your posts on that subject could do so by killfiling
*that* rather than you.
HTH
--
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Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Howard Brazee
On 12-Jan-2005, "BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'd really like to know what it would take to be removed from
> everyone's kill-file. This has always been about my honestly held
> opinions. I don't see why it is a problem to discuss it once again when
> he does it once again.
Quite a few people have said that they are kill-filing you because of your
obsession with Tiger's language. If they are being honest in this, then it
should be obvious what you should do if you do not want to be in kill-files, and
it should be obvious what will happen when you continue to do so.
If you don't believe them, then I understand why you don't think it's a problem,
and why you don't know what to do to be removed from kill-files.
If you participate in threads that interest them, and avoid threads that they
consider troll threads, they will find the gaps in the conversations to be more
irritating than the possibility that you will continue as in the past, in which
case, they will remove you from their kill-files.
Carbon
> I'd really like to know what it would take to be removed from everyone's
> kill-file. This has always been about my honestly held opinions. I don't
> see why it is a problem to discuss it once again when he does it once
> again.
Everyone reading rsg already knows your honestly held opinions. Why?
Because you've ranted about them thousands of times. The best thing you
could do is find something other than Tiger or politics to talk about. You
won't have to spend so much time arguing about the same old crap, and
eventually people will decide you're rational and will delete your
killfile entry.
Bruce Newman
<how...@brazee.net> wrote:
That sounds great to me, Howard. I don't like killfiling anyone,
including Ken. But there is a point that it just saves aggravation. I
already KNOW what he thinks so why is he so keen to post when Tiger
curses yet again? Dr. Phil sayd there is a payoff for every action. I
wonder what Ken's payoff is.
Unless he cuts the endless rants--Tiger and politics--Ken is dead to
me. I'm NOT saying he can't have an opinion. That's a different animal
altogether. Just don't pollute RSG.
Bruce
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mac
I don't understand what the big deal is. The man has an opinion and he
expresses it. He didn't even start the discussion. Maybe because I
don't know the history I don't see the problem.
Mike Dalecki
> I have not made any off topic posts in weeks.
>
> I did not start the latest discussion about Tiger's latest
> indiscretion. I guess because I have made my opinion known in the past,
> I don't get to express it any more.
How about expressing it once, and stopping there? Do you think you're
more right just because you say it more than once?
Shouting louder doesn't make you right. It just makes you louder.
>
> I don't want to be shunned from the group. I guess I will if I'm not
> welcome any more.
It's a broken record. People stop listening to broken records because
they don't sound very appealing.
> I'd really like to know what it would take to be removed from
> everyone's kill-file. This has always been about my honestly held
> opinions. I don't see why it is a problem to discuss it once again when
> he does it once again.
So say it--once.
I don't know if you just don't see it, but it's to the point when
someone sees your name, they just know what you're going to be saying.
Old news, as it were.
I almost never read your posts. What's the point? You don't accept
what others point out, i.e., if it were a problem the networks would
deal with it.
Since it's *not* a problem, else the networks would deal with it by a
delay or whatever, then what's your point? Lots of people were outraged
by Randy Moss "mooning" Packer fans last Sunday. Lots of people were
outraged by the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction last year in the
Super Bowl.
But there's no public outrage against what you are so worked up about.
Ergo, it isn't perceived as a problem, except by a very small segment of
the population, a small enough segment that the networks don't have to
pay attention to it.
OK, so you don't like Tiger. We get it.
The fact that you keep changing your moniker to get past people's kill
files says volumes. Lots and lots of people on RSG don't want to read
what you write any more. Isn't there a lesson in that?
Changing your moniker is tantamount to saying to those who have chosen
to ignore or killfile you, "No--you must listen to my opinion!" How do
you think that plays in Peoria?
Well, let me clue you in. The right to an opinion is not the same as
the right to have it taken seriously by others. You have a right to an
opinion; you do not have the right to have it respected by others.
Respect for an opinion is earned, not awarded.
And we have the right not to listen, just as you have the right to
express your opinion.
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Mike Dalecki
It's the 400th time he's done it. You also missed his attempt last fall
to turn rec.sport.golf into alt.politics.kenpitts.
People are tired of the act.
BowTie - Chevy
In this latest round about Tiger, I've been called a Klan member and
had two people wish for me to be dead. How would you react to that ?
I would like for everyone to remove me from kill files. I would like
for the word to be spread through the various lists and cliques where I
am not welcomed.
Ken
Brock McKinnaugh
news:1105555213.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm asking for another chance. I thought I had been doing a lot better.
> In this latest round about Tiger, I've been called a Klan member and
> had two people wish for me to be dead. How would you react to that ?
This is really getting tiresome, Ken. Again, I said nothing of the sort.
You are really reading way too much into things.
Mike Dalecki
> I'm asking for another chance. I thought I had been doing a lot better.
> In this latest round about Tiger, I've been called a Klan member and
> had two people wish for me to be dead. How would you react to that ?
I'd take a long look in a mirror.
>
> I would like for everyone to remove me from kill files. I would like
> for the word to be spread through the various lists and cliques where I
> am not welcomed.
>
> Ken
You can do this by showing you've changed, that you don't initiate nor
participate in off-topic threads on RSG, that you post on Golf and not
just one tiny topic, and that you become part of the community.
That will happen over time if you decide it's important enough to you,
so long as you stay away from what you have been posting about and
broaden your participation as most everyone else does.
If you want people to take you out of the KF, you need to give them a
reason, and not just because you asked them to.
Try posting on topic. Try not posting about Tiger. See what happens.
I've long wanted your contributions here to be about golf. I might
learn something from you. You're a good golfer, you do it under the
pressure of tournament conditions, I'd like to see what you have to say
about things.
THAT would get me to read what you write. But I'll tell you this, Ken:
The first time you turn a thread from what it's subject is to your own
agenda, you'll be back in ignore-land.
Alan Baker
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm asking for another chance. I thought I had been doing a lot better.
> In this latest round about Tiger, I've been called a Klan member and
> had two people wish for me to be dead. How would you react to that ?
By wondering what I had done to piss them off so badly.
There's a saying: If you go through a day and you think you encounter 3
assholes, chances are good the only asshole was you.
>
> I would like for everyone to remove me from kill files. I would like
> for the word to be spread through the various lists and cliques where I
> am not welcomed.
I'd like world piece and a Lotus Esprit V-8. So what?
BowTie - Chevy
Ken
BowTie - Chevy
Ken
Herbert
"mac" <danvi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105554394.8...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
His opinions and political posts have historically pushed alot of peoples'
buttons. If the people complaining about his posts would ignore him his
threads would take up no more space than the repetitive "What's a good
high-spin ball?" thread seen here every couple of weeks or so. But they
just *can't* ignore him. Some even *tell* him they are going to ignore him,
which is kinda interesting to observe.
David Geesaman
news:1105551373.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
I don't think I've been a major player, but I for one don't read this
newsgroup for the subject of behavior of tour pros.
Nor do I care to read about off-topic political talk. (On that subject,
I feel anyone participating in truly off-topic posts is doing everyone a
disservice).
Nor do I want to read about people fighting with each other. Truly
childish.
I read this group for pleasure and insight into the game of golf more
than anything, and the few times I recall your input it's been good. But
most discussions about the Tour pros is negative in nature, all political
arguments here have been crap, and the fights are a waste of GNP. So on
that basis I can't say much of your posts are worth reading.
It's not worth complaining about them, but since you asked I'm telling
you that. You can't please everyone all the time, etc. What you choose to
discuss is beyond my control, even if it's off-topic per the charter, and I
realize that. And you personally are far from the only one with kind of
posting record, so I'm not speaking directly to you. (Sadly, it seems to be
a majority of those who have large post volume)
In a perfect world, I could easily filter out all the off-topic stuff,
and keep all the good postings from all the posters. But in the end I aim
for efficiency - the one chuckle/month that MissAnneThrope manages to strike
isn't worth the dozens of idiot comments. Hence, (s)he's killfiled. People
like Larry and 5i, I listened to for a few months, but when they
demonstrated they added nothing and were learning even less, got killfiled.
I am annoyed with the many individuals who sometimes talk good golf but
still waste time with personal ego-battles on the group. Generally I leave
them in and mark the crappy threads as 'Ignore'.
$0.02.
Dave
Mike Dalecki
> Do a Google search for BowTie - Chevy. You might be surprised.
>
> Ken
>
I have no interest in doing that.
BowTie - Chevy
Ken
BowTie - Chevy
happy.
Ken
Alan Baker
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What is world piece ?
>
> Ken
I see the message was lost on you.
Question: is the attitude I'm seeing presented by you really one of a
person who wants to change people's opinion of him?
DJD
Mac,
In that particular case, yes, someone else started it. However, Ken
himself has started literally dozens of threads about Tiger's behavior,
dating back to almost his 1st professional event. Most of us who have
been around RSG for a while are all too familiar with Ken's opinions
(both on Tiger and on politics) and quite a few are tired of reading
them, so they have Ken in their kill files. However, Ken has made a
habit of changing his posting name on a regular basis in order to
circumvent those kill files (he did it again today). First, that's rude,
and second, it's what a troll does. And THAT's what a lot of people are
upset with Ken about, not his opinions on Tiger.
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Alan Baker
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do a Google search for BowTie - Chevy. You might be surprised.
>
> Ken
Once again, you want everyone involved to work at this...
...except you.
Steve
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105551373.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Here are my thoughts and opinions....
Its clear to me that Ken is a substantially better player than almost
everyone who regularly posts. I personally would love to see a lot more
golf instructional related posts from Ken. I know I could learn a lot from
him.
Do Ken's OT posts bother me? Not really, partly because I agree with the
majority of his opinions, partly because I have the ability to not read what
are clearly OT posts which seems to be a skill some here do not seem to be
able to master. Is it just me or do other ppls newsreaders require that you
read each and every post? There are a lot of ppl I never read because I
know they are a total waste of my time.
Does Ken get picked on by the group in general more than he deserves? Yes,
it seems like every 3rd post this last week was a "plonk Ken" post started
by someone I have never seen post before but I highly suspect are all really
the work of the stalker JBrown.
Do others get a pass for doing similar "OT" posts? If the Tiger cussing
posts are considered OT then what about all of the Natalie G. and Phil's man
boobs posts? I find the anti Phil posts more annoying than the Tiger
cussing posts and its not like either one is my favorite or least favorite
player.
I think part of the reason Ken gets picked on is the attacks get under his
skin and he replies back and that is what the stalker types want and that
just causes a snowball effect.
Do ppl have the right to kill file anyone they want for any reason? Of
course. Not sure the point in having to tell the group over and over you
are doing it. Makes me wonder if you really are or not.
How can Ken win back the kill file ppl? Post instructional golf content.
How can Ken reduce the anti Ken posts and stalker types? Ignore them.
Just my thoughts and opinions,
Steve
BowTie - Chevy
I am saying that I will participate within standards of which I am well
aware. But, am I supposed to just roll over and play dead when someone
who obviously dislikes me is saying "So what" in a smart-ass manner ?
You are pre-disposed to attack me no matter what I do. I don't care if
you kill-file me or not. I am looking to get back in the good graces of
people I have known for years who are now obviously avoiding me.
Ken
DJD
> His opinions and political posts have historically pushed alot of peoples'
> buttons. If the people complaining about his posts would ignore him
<snipped>
That's what a kill file is for. Of course, they don't work very well
when the person you are trying to ignore keeps changing his moniker to
avoid that kill file.
BowTie - Chevy
Herbert
"DJD" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:34lb47F...@individual.net...
> mac wrote:
>
> > I am new to this group but have been following this rant a little bit.
> > I don't understand what the big deal is. The man has an opinion and he
> > expresses it. He didn't even start the discussion. Maybe because I
> > don't know the history I don't see the problem.
> >
>
> Mac,
>
> In that particular case, yes, someone else started it. However, Ken
> himself has started literally dozens of threads about Tiger's behavior,
> dating back to almost his 1st professional event. Most of us who have
> been around RSG for a while are all too familiar with Ken's opinions
> (both on Tiger and on politics) and quite a few are tired of reading
> them, so they have Ken in their kill files. However, Ken has made a
> habit of changing his posting name on a regular basis in order to
> circumvent those kill files (he did it again today). First, that's rude,
> and second, it's what a troll does. And THAT's what a lot of people are
> upset with Ken about, not his opinions on Tiger.
You make pefect sense here. However, everyone knows the way to deal with a
troll is to ignore him. People here post a clever insult (perhaps to
ingratiate themselves with other members of RSG) while simultaneously
telling him they are trying to ignore him. Then they act outraged when he
changes names and tries to defend himself. You cannot have it both ways,
you either ignore a troll or you play along...there is no middle ground!
BowTie - Chevy
Ken
Alan Baker
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You don't know what I'm pre-disposed to do at the moment. You are,
however, *influencing* what I will be pre-disposed to in the future.
I don't dislike you, Ken, but I don't like you either. I don't have much
*respect* for you, because you post in a manner which reminds me very
much of a spoiled child.
And what you've done today only strengthens the resemblance.
"I would like for everyone to remove me from kill files. I would like
for the word to be spread through the various lists and cliques where I
am not welcomed."
*You'd like*... ...*you'd like*...
Newsflash: start thinking about what *other* people would like.
Howard Brazee
On 12-Jan-2005, "BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have already quit posting on politics.
That's nice.
> We won. The liberals lost. I'm happy.
That didn't last long.
MnMikew
"ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
news:0T1t6db...@redshark.goodshow.net...
> There is no group. There are only individuals. So there are
> probably as many answers to this as there are people who have
> you plonked.
>
Ahhh, you've never heard of the Clique or C-list then.
MnMikew
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105556255.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I have already quit posting on politics. We won. The liberals lost. I'm
> happy.
>
> Ken
>
thanks to the Dems. Oops, politics, sorry.
MnMikew
> I don't understand what the big deal is. The man has an opinion and he
> expresses it. He didn't even start the discussion. Maybe because I
> don't know the history I don't see the problem.
>
Steve Horvath
Brock, I read your remark as: Tiger's legacy will long
outlive the naysayers. Naysayer eq'd Ken at that moment.
Ken, since you asked (sorry, but):
Your online persona comes off as extremely self-absorbed.
That's it. Well there's the other part- that you don't
recognize it, which is why you have a troll based fanclub
with a bona fide stalker as it's leader.
Fix that, and no "chance" will be needed second or otherwise
for newsgroup regulars. That part is easy. The troll part
will be a lot harder, but perseverance would prevail.
Steve
> Thank you. I appreciate it.
>
> Ken
NP although it was not intended as a pro or con Ken Pitts post. Just my
honest thoughts.
I really hope you post some instructional golf because I sure could use
some, especially about hitting a driver or 3 wood off of a tee. I would
love to be able to hit a wood farther than I hit my 5 iron and it sure aint
because I bomb the 5 iron.
Steve
MnMikew
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105555886.5...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> What is world piece ?
>
> Ken
>
MnMikew
"Mike Dalecki" <mi...@dalecki.net> wrote in message
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>>
> Try posting on topic. Try not posting about Tiger. See what happens.
>
Explain to us how posting about Tiger woods in a golf newsgroup is NOT on
topic.
Steve
> LOL. Likewise Ken. But now we have 4 more years of stalemate in Congress
> thanks to the Dems. Oops, politics, sorry.
Stalemate in Congress... and that is a bad thing how?
Steve
Bobby Knight
No, Mac. Herb is half-wrong ( getting better). No one that I know of
has a problem with Ken's, or anyone else's, opinions. However, this
has gone on for seven years and there's nothing new, just the same
complaints that go on and on....whether or not he starts a thread
about TW's actions, he adopts the thread as his own and will post ad
infinitum about the same thing, over and over.
That's been the problem this week
The half about which Herb is correct is that Ken's OT posts on
politics are the same. That has caused even more complaints.
It's hard to ignore Ken's posts, because he's one of the five or six
best golfers that post here and has a lot of knowledge about the game.
But his ratio of off-topic posts, to golf posts, make it frustrating.
bk
Bruce Newman
[...]
> However, Ken has made a
> habit of changing his posting name on a regular basis in order to
> circumvent those kill files (he did it again today). First, that's rude,
> and second, it's what a troll does. And THAT's what a lot of people are
> upset with Ken about, not his opinions on Tiger.
One thing for sure, I can kill Ken a lot faster than he can change his
name. :-)
Bruce
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Herbert
"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message
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LOL!! Thinking the same thing.
Mike Dalecki
It is on topic, but that's not what I said. I said to post on topic,
but not Tiger. See what happens.
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MnMikew
"Steve" <stevebNoS...@comcast.com> wrote in message
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"I have the ability to not read what are clearly OT posts which seems to be
a skill some here do not seem to be able to master."
EXACTLY Steve! It really isn't that hard. But people here mostly like to
bitch and complain.
Alan Baker
Bobby Knight
Herbert
"Bobby Knight" <bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
news:m7vau0tkb78f9avc7...@4ax.com...
> The half about which Herb is correct is that Ken's OT posts on
> politics are the same. That has caused even more complaints.
>
> It's hard to ignore Ken's posts, because he's one of the five or six
> best golfers that post here and has a lot of knowledge about the game.
> But his ratio of off-topic posts, to golf posts, make it frustrating.
Well, Bob, how do you feel about you're ratio of actual golf posts to
mud-slinging and petty one-line-put-downs?
Howard Brazee
On 12-Jan-2005, "MnMikew" <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Try posting on topic. Try not posting about Tiger. See what happens.
> >
> Explain to us how posting about Tiger woods in a golf newsgroup is NOT on
> topic.
Those appeared to be two separate requests. People complain about him posting
off-topic, and people complained about his obsession with Tiger. Look like
separate issues to me.
Bobby Knight
Fine
bk
Bobby Knight
Darn, I'm sorry Herbie. I forgot to put you down for the use of
"you're" instead of "your".
bk
MnMikew
Dene
> I have not made any off topic posts in weeks.
>
> I did not start the latest discussion about Tiger's latest
> indiscretion. I guess because I have made my opinion known in the past,
> I don't get to express it any more.
>
> I don't want to be shunned from the group. I guess I will if I'm not
> welcome any more.
>
> I'd really like to know what it would take to be removed from
> everyone's kill-file. This has always been about my honestly held
> opinions. I don't see why it is a problem to discuss it once again when
> he does it once again.
>
> Ken
>
I'm sure we'll talk more about it tomorrow night but my question is this?
The people who claimed to have plonked you are a relative few, likely none
you've ever met. Given that, why is it important to you that they de-plonk
you? Why not focus on your friends while continuing to be yourself? You
have a number of them here.
Personally, I have no trouble with your posts about Tiger. IMO, he is a
spoiled twit and the fact that you're repititious or adamant about his
vulgar behavior is irrelevent. It's on-topic....it's your right.
There are posters who repeatedly complain about the publicity TW gets, even
if he's behind the pack. For some reason, they don't get hammered like you.
As for political posts, you haven't posted along those lines since November.
You easily could....there is plenty of material, especially with the
governor situation in Washington. You've chosen to cease these kinds of
posts and I appreciate that.
Bottom line....care about the ones who care about you. You're never going
to satisfy the remaining few. Ignore them.
-Greg
MnMikew
Um, that's two lines there Bobby, you're slipping. :-)
Bobby Knight
wrote:
>> Darn, I'm sorry Herbie. I forgot to put you down for the use of
>> "you're" instead of "your".
>> bk
>
>Um, that's two lines there Bobby, you're slipping. :-)
>
Getting old is a bitch.
bk
Dene
"Herbert" <he...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:KqfFd.61358$8l.18854@pd7tw1no...
Hey! "Bob" is my descriptor. Get your own! ;>
-Greg
Bobby Knight
wrote:
>
>Hey! "Bob" is my descriptor. Get your own! ;>
>
> -Greg
>
Bob, Bobby, Robert, Sir, Your Liege, Master, Oh Gifted One.
Whatever :-)
bk
Dene
Don't forget Curmudgeon, Coot, Wilt, .......
-Greg
Chris S
Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <1105557418.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> "BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Maybe I should just vacate.
>>
>>I am saying that I will participate within standards of which I am well
>>aware. But, am I supposed to just roll over and play dead when someone
>>who obviously dislikes me is saying "So what" in a smart-ass manner ?
>>
>>You are pre-disposed to attack me no matter what I do. I don't care if
>>you kill-file me or not. I am looking to get back in the good graces of
>>people I have known for years who are now obviously avoiding me.
>>
>>Ken
>
>
> You don't know what I'm pre-disposed to do at the moment. You are,
> however, *influencing* what I will be pre-disposed to in the future.
Jesus H....another lesson!
>
> I don't dislike you, Ken, but I don't like you either. I don't have much
> *respect* for you, because you post in a manner which reminds me very
> much of a spoiled child.
This thread is pretty much a by product of the new RSG. Ken sincerely
(I believe) wants to make
some amends, and others are telling him what he can and cannot post
about. Others are giving lessons
in pop psychology. This stuff has no end.
>
> And what you've done today only strengthens the resemblance.
>
> "I would like for everyone to remove me from kill files. I would like
> for the word to be spread through the various lists and cliques where I
> am not welcomed."
>
> *You'd like*... ...*you'd like*...
>
> Newsflash: start thinking about what *other* people would like.
LOL!
>
Herbert
That's OK. You showed wonderful restraint with "fine" and that means you
are trying.
Bobby Knight
wrote:
I should have started alphabetically.....Asshole. But Wilt???
bk
Alan Baker
Chris S <gol...@coxyahoo.com> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <1105557418.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> > "BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Maybe I should just vacate.
> >>
> >>I am saying that I will participate within standards of which I am well
> >>aware. But, am I supposed to just roll over and play dead when someone
> >>who obviously dislikes me is saying "So what" in a smart-ass manner ?
> >>
> >>You are pre-disposed to attack me no matter what I do. I don't care if
> >>you kill-file me or not. I am looking to get back in the good graces of
> >>people I have known for years who are now obviously avoiding me.
> >>
> >>Ken
> >
> >
> > You don't know what I'm pre-disposed to do at the moment. You are,
> > however, *influencing* what I will be pre-disposed to in the future.
>
> Jesus H....another lesson!
He apparently needs them.
> >
> > I don't dislike you, Ken, but I don't like you either. I don't have much
> > *respect* for you, because you post in a manner which reminds me very
> > much of a spoiled child.
>
> This thread is pretty much a by product of the new RSG. Ken sincerely
> (I believe) wants to make
> some amends, and others are telling him what he can and cannot post
> about. Others are giving lessons
> in pop psychology. This stuff has no end.
Well what would you expect. Ken posted asking what he should do and
people have been telling him...
...what they think he should do...
Ken's responded with his usual "charm" and here we are!
> >
> > And what you've done today only strengthens the resemblance.
> >
> > "I would like for everyone to remove me from kill files. I would like
> > for the word to be spread through the various lists and cliques where I
> > am not welcomed."
> >
> > *You'd like*... ...*you'd like*...
> >
> > Newsflash: start thinking about what *other* people would like.
>
> LOL!
> >
--
BowTie - Chevy
Ken
ChrisTheHeretic
:
: "ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
: news:0T1t6db...@redshark.goodshow.net...
: > There is no group. There are only individuals. So there are
: > probably as many answers to this as there are people who have
: > you plonked.
: >
: Ahhh, you've never heard of the Clique or C-list then.
No. Who are they?
-c
The Rev
wrote:
>Bottom line....care about the ones who care about you. You're never going
>to satisfy the remaining few. Ignore them.
And I think that, right there, sums up the #1 problem with RSG.
Why *not* behave like you're gonna meet these people? The reason I
try to stay out of this kind of pointless shitslinging is because at
some point I plan to meet these people, and I want them to know me at
least a little bit. That means acting like I'm gonna act whether I've
got a keyboard in front of me or not, and whether I'm gonna ever meet
these people or not...
Todd McGillivray - http://hoganisgod.blogspot.com/
Emailing me? tmac AT reverentialproductions DOT com
"A firm handshake doesn't reveal a thing about character.
All it tells me is you're probably going to hold the
club too tight." - Bob Toski
Alan Baker
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here we are, another chance for you to slam me.
>
> Ken
And with your nature, you just can't resist replying, can you?
LOL
ChrisTheHeretic
: On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:56:10 -0800, "Dene" <dene@(nospam)ipns.com>
: wrote:
:
: >Bottom line....care about the ones who care about you. You're never going
: >to satisfy the remaining few. Ignore them.
:
: And I think that, right there, sums up the #1 problem with RSG.
:
: Why *not* behave like you're gonna meet these people? The reason I
: try to stay out of this kind of pointless shitslinging is because at
: some point I plan to meet these people, and I want them to know me at
: least a little bit. That means acting like I'm gonna act whether I've
: got a keyboard in front of me or not, and whether I'm gonna ever meet
: these people or not...
Yeah, but you're a booger-eating moron.
No, wait, that's me. Sorry, my mistake. Carry on.
Shit.
cb
Dene
An old c-list joke referring to your prowess with the jazz-struck ladies.
-Greg
Dene
"The Rev" <idontl...@mpfc.com> wrote in message
news:sn3bu0d64089u9b3q...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:56:10 -0800, "Dene" <dene@(nospam)ipns.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Bottom line....care about the ones who care about you. You're never
going
> >to satisfy the remaining few. Ignore them.
>
> And I think that, right there, sums up the #1 problem with RSG.
If you speak your mind, as Ken does, then in life and RSG, you will find
detractors.
> Why *not* behave like you're gonna meet these people? The reason I
> try to stay out of this kind of pointless shitslinging is because at
> some point I plan to meet these people, and I want them to know me at
> least a little bit. That means acting like I'm gonna act whether I've
> got a keyboard in front of me or not, and whether I'm gonna ever meet
> these people or not...
That's a good way of approaching RSG. As for me, I'm pretty much the same
person, keyboard or not. I don't take kindly to rude, uppity behavior.
Fortunately, I've never encountered this in an RSG event. Hopefully I never
will.
-Greg
ChrisTheHeretic
:
: "BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: news:1105556255.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
: > I have already quit posting on politics. We won. The liberals lost. I'm
: > happy.
: >
: > Ken
: >
: LOL. Likewise Ken. But now we have 4 more years of stalemate in Congress
: thanks to the Dems. Oops, politics, sorry.
You have to hand it to a victim mentality that manages to stay
pissed even when the "victim" controls all three branches of
American government.
Yeah, this is an off-topic post. I'm entitled to a couple every
now and then.
Bobby Knight
wrote:
You can be sure it was a joke :-)
bk
bill-o
> What is world piece ?
>
Surely he meant Whirled Peas!
--
bill-o
bill-o
>
> How can Ken win back the kill file ppl? Post instructional golf content.
>
> How can Ken reduce the anti Ken posts and stalker types? Ignore them.
>
Simple, direct, and IMO, spot on.
--
bill-o
bill-o
>>LOL. Likewise Ken. But now we have 4 more years of stalemate in Congress
>>thanks to the Dems. Oops, politics, sorry.
>
>
I agree here, it is how the system was designed.
--
bill-o
ChrisTheHeretic
:
: That's a good way of approaching RSG. As for me, I'm pretty much the same
: person, keyboard or not. I don't take kindly to rude, uppity behavior.
: Fortunately, I've never encountered this in an RSG event. Hopefully I never
: will.
Note to self: Well, you know.
cb
DJD
> You make pefect sense here. However, everyone knows the way to deal
with a
> troll is to ignore him.
Wow, haven't heard that one before!
> People here post a clever insult (perhaps to
> ingratiate themselves with other members of RSG) while simultaneously
> telling him they are trying to ignore him. Then they act outraged when he
> changes names and tries to defend himself. You cannot have it both ways,
> you either ignore a troll or you play along...there is no middle ground!
Did it ever occur to you that a post calling for everyone to plonk
Pitts, from someone who has NEVER posted in this newsgroup before, might
have been a troll? Now you tell me, if a troll goes to the trouble of
starting a flame thread like that, exactly how likely is it that they
ever had any intention of kill filing anyone, let alone the target of
the troll?
For someone who claims to have been around for a while, you don't seem
to pick up on the fairly obvious. Or perhaps you pick it up all to well.
--
Dan Driscoll
RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html
RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld
MnMikew
I hear that!
MnMikew
"ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
I'd tell you, but alas, I would have to kill you. :-)
Google should tell you all you need to know.
MnMikew
"ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
> MnMikew <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
> :
> : "BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : news:1105556255.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> : > I have already quit posting on politics. We won. The liberals lost.
I'm
> : > happy.
> : >
> : > Ken
> : >
> : LOL. Likewise Ken. But now we have 4 more years of stalemate in Congress
> : thanks to the Dems. Oops, politics, sorry.
>
> You have to hand it to a victim mentality that manages to stay
> pissed even when the "victim" controls all three branches of
> American government.
>
ChrisTheHeretic
: > MnMikew <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
: > :
: > : "ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
: > : news:0T1t6db...@redshark.goodshow.net...
: > : > There is no group. There are only individuals. So there are
: > : > probably as many answers to this as there are people who have
: > : > you plonked.
: > : >
: > : Ahhh, you've never heard of the Clique or C-list then.
: >
: > No. Who are they?
: I'd tell you, but alas, I would have to kill you. :-)
: Google should tell you all you need to know.
OMG, those are total elitist bastards! Are you part of that
pack of assholes? I hope not!
-c
ChrisTheHeretic
:
: "ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
That's a really horny stud, isn't it?
cb
(gotta hand it to a majority that won't be happy until it
eliminates all dissent... hmm, who does that remind me of?)
Lee O.
I am the guy who said that 3 K's are enough in your name. That was in
response to Peter Strauss' using six or seven 'K's" in your name in his
post. He wrote his in jest and I followed suit, kinda.
I do not know you and should probably not have posted that remark. It
was a spontaneous act on my part and I apologize for having made it.
I have been following RSG for six months or so and post occasionally,
usually to rag on 5I. I have been playing golf for about as long and
find "some" of the posts here quite useful. The political pushes a
button, the religious is none of my business and the morals of another
person, be it you, 5I or Tiger is something over which I have absolutely
no control.
You apparently have been expressing the exact same opinion on this issue
for seven years. I know I have read a number of threads on this and
political matters in the past six months.
My question to you would would be this: "Ken, what would you like me to
do about this matter?" The truth is there is nothing that I or you can
do about Tiger's behavior. Unless, of course, we could go to him and
beat him over the head with a lob wedge.
Your opinion on this a shared by many in RSG, but we do not obsess over
it. Your opinion IS valid. But there is nothing any of us can do about
his behavior. We can, however, complain about your obsessive posting on
this subject and that is what we are doing.
We are asking you to change the subject. That does not mean that you are
wrong in your opinion. You've beaten this one into the ground. I have
not seen anyone suggest that cussing in 'public' is good.
How else can we get through to you? Enough is enough. Cool it man!
Cheers Lee O.
John van der Pflum
Chairman Mao?
--
jvdp
DJD
> MnMikew <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
> : Lookup the word fillibuster.
>
> That's a really horny stud, isn't it?
>
> cb
A 2x4 with antlers? Is that lumber pressure treated?
Herbert
"DJD" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:34lljcF...@individual.net...
> Herbert wrote:
> > You make pefect sense here. However, everyone knows the way to deal
> with a
> > troll is to ignore him.
>
> Wow, haven't heard that one before!
>
> > People here post a clever insult (perhaps to
> > ingratiate themselves with other members of RSG) while simultaneously
> > telling him they are trying to ignore him. Then they act outraged when
he
> > changes names and tries to defend himself. You cannot have it both
ways,
> > you either ignore a troll or you play along...there is no middle ground!
>
> Did it ever occur to you that a post calling for everyone to plonk
> Pitts, from someone who has NEVER posted in this newsgroup before, might
> have been a troll? Now you tell me, if a troll goes to the trouble of
> starting a flame thread like that, exactly how likely is it that they
> ever had any intention of kill filing anyone, let alone the target of
> the troll?
Now you're playing guessing games to suit your own agenda. I was never
thinking of those posts at all, and in fact never once replied to those
threads as they were clearly initiated by posters outside of RSG. You do
not need to make things up, just refer to the threads I was active in to
form your response. They contain the posts I was referring to.
ChrisTheHeretic
: On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:30:26 GMT, ChrisTheHeretic
All hail the new Cultural Revolution and our Glorious Leader?
Hmm.
cb
Dene
"ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
Good one!!!
-Greg
ChrisTheHeretic
:
: "ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
: Good one!!!
"Nice shot... for a total loser outcast. Dumbass."
Yeah, this'll be fun.
cb
Dene
"ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
Yeah...wait till I sick my P-list on you (Phlum, Prof, Pastor,
Pissant-->me), you elitist, uppity arse.
> Yeah, this'll be fun.
Can't wait!
-Greg
Dene
"Rick Rider" <ro.r...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:tekbu0tgnvbiti2os...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:10:00 -0800, "Dene" <dene@(nospam)ipns.com>
wrote:
>
> snip
> >
> >That's a good way of approaching RSG. As for me, I'm pretty much the
same
> >person, keyboard or not.
>
well reasoned
> person. Here, you aren't very polite, you are not so considerate, and you
are not
> well-reasoned.
That's because I'm usually whuppin you on the golf course.
> Here, I want to plonk you ass. On the course, you are a pleasure to be
with and to beat.
> (Oh, that was just that last time we played.)
My wife was present....had to control my behavior.
> > I don't take kindly to rude, uppity behavior.
>
> I think you interpret some behavior as rude and uppity when it is not that
at all.
Fine....pompous is a better descriptor.
Actually, there is very little of it in RSG. Most of it is just bluster.
-Greg
Miss Anne Thrope
girls. Although if you were, getting off of it would include, but not
be limited to, wizzing into a plugged in toaster. Popularity is highly
overrated........especially when you're popular with golf dolts.
"R&B"
opinion they way they do. But you're a one-trick-pony. Any time Tiger
utters a foul word, you're right there harping on it again.
We got it the first time.
To put it in vernacular that you, yourself, used: We've considered your
opinion. But you haven't changed ours.
Randy
"BowTie - Chevy" <bowtie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105551373.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>I have not made any off topic posts in weeks.
>
> I did not start the latest discussion about Tiger's latest
> indiscretion. I guess because I have made my opinion known in the past,
> I don't get to express it any more.
>
> I don't want to be shunned from the group. I guess I will if I'm not
> welcome any more.
>
> I'd really like to know what it would take to be removed from
> everyone's kill-file. This has always been about my honestly held
> opinions. I don't see why it is a problem to discuss it once again when
> he does it once again.
>
> Ken
>
"R&B"
news:34l8ndF...@individual.net...
> mac wrote:
>
>> I am new to this group but have been following this rant a little bit.
>> I don't understand what the big deal is. The man has an opinion and he
>> expresses it. He didn't even start the discussion. Maybe because I
>> don't know the history I don't see the problem.
>>
>
> It's the 400th time he's done it.
More like the 400-thousandth time.
Randy
Carbon
> Ken, if you ever said anything new, then maybe people wouldn't
> dismiss your opinion they way they do. But you're a
> one-trick-pony. Any time Tiger utters a foul word, you're right
> there harping on it again.
Two tricks. The political rants are just as bad.
John van der Pflum
Is this part of the N&IRSG>
--
jvdp
Howard Brazee
On 12-Jan-2005, "Steve" <stevebNoS...@comcast.com> wrote:
> Stalemate in Congress... and that is a bad thing how?
I've always liked it when it isn't too easy for Congress pass laws.
MnMikew
"ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
MnMikew
"ChrisTheHeretic" <pu...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
There's a fine line between dissent and being a pain in the ass.